A Hair Raising Time

I am making the declaration that I am almost totally recovered from surgery. The doctors have told me I may partake of all the aerobic exercises I care to, but not to lift anything heavier than a gallon of milk. Well, darn, wouldn’t you know it – my dust rag has to be the heaviest thing ever?

It is exciting to see my hair growing back. I look somewhat like Wooly Willy with a small amount of shavings on my head. With encouragement from a few friends, I decided to abandon the Red Beast. If you had told me last year I would be walking around in public with hair no longer than 1/8th of an inch, I would never have believed you. However, it’s been liberating. I ride around with the car windows open and taking care of my hair is a breeze – just towel dry and go!

DH (dear husband) made the observation that it’s the first time in 56 years I’ve had the opportunity to grow my hair from scratch.

Today is a good day!

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Facility Fees – Cliff Notes Version

Last week, during a conversation with my son, I asked him if he had read my blog posts about facility fees. His response was “No, TLDR.” For the acronym challenged, that stands for Too Long, Didn’t Read. Ack! I already knew  that 80% of us are skimmers, looking for quick information. I’m making one last, quick post on the subject to explain these insidious, avoidable charges.

Scenario One

You see Dr. Watsamatter for a routine office visit – his charge is $175.
Six months later you make another visit to Dr. Watsamatter, who has now sold his practice to a hospital. His charge remains $175 PLUS a separate bill for $150 arrives in the mail from the hospital.

Scenario Two

It’s Saturday afternoon and you are cutting fresh limes for tequilas when the knife slips into your finger. The wound requires stitches, so it’s a quick trip to the nearest urgent care center.  You are billed $350 from the urgent care center PLUS a separate bill of $380 arrives from the hospital that owns the clinic. Driving another mile to a privately owned clinic would have saved you the $380.

Facility/hospital/clinic fees (depending on the hospital, they are called different names) can sneak up on anyone seeking health care. These fees are relatively new and quickly cropping up all over the country. As a consumer, you can avoid paying these extra charges if you ask your health care provider about their billing practices.

After a month away, I made it to a couple of bridge games this week. Life is finally returning to normal. Today is a good day!

Note: For more information click >>> here<<<  for my lengthy informative post on facility fees and how to avoid them. 

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Facility Fees – My Story

On a Thursday in early November, 2011, I was diagnosed with inflammatory breast cancer. Because it is a fast, aggressive cancer, chemotherapy treatments were scheduled for Friday of the next week. On Tuesday (before chemotherapy began), our family attended a meeting with a social worker, oncology pharmacist, nurse navigator and an insurance specialist.

When the insurance specialist was introduced, we were told she was an “expert in insurance” and would be available to help us navigate through any insurance problems. As with everyone else in that meeting, her business card indicated she worked for the hospital and her official title was confirmed as “insurance specialist.” We asked Miss Insurance Specialist if she would mind looking at our health insurance policy to see if she saw anything that could cause problems. Miss Insurance Specialist indicated that she would be glad to. A week later she returned the policy and assured us that once we met the cap on our deductible and co-pay for the year, everything would be covered by insurance. That is how we also read the policy, so we were delighted to get confirmation from her.

I had made sure that all of the doctors and the hospital were approved in-network providers through our insurance. When I was on campus, I felt that I was in a medical all-inclusive resort. If the doctor said I needed it, insurance would cover the costs. Chemotherapy treatments were started immediately that week. The routine included an appointment with the oncologist, and then a walk across the hall to receive chemotherapy. At the time of treatment, no statements were ever offered for me to look at. As I would leave, I was told that insurance would be billed. The hospital bills insurance on a monthly basis, then insurance takes a few weeks to process the claim. I didn’t get the first insurance EOB (explanation of benefits) until I was two months into chemotherapy.

When the first EOB arrived, it was several pages of line items. Everything was described as “hospital services.” I was perplexed to see several $185 charges that the EOB stated were not covered benefits. All of those $185 charges were on chemotherapy days. I immediately called the insurance company to inquire why these charges were not covered.

Ins. Rep – “Oh, that’s a minute clinic fee and minute clinics are not part of your covered benefits.”
Me – “What’s a minute clinic?”
Ins. Rep – “That’s like when you go to a Walgreens and get a flu shot. That’s not a covered benefit.”
Me – “The only clinic I’ve been to is the infusion clinic to get my chemotherapy. If chemotherapy is a covered benefit, surely the clinic fee for that is a covered benefit also. I don’t think the doctor would let me bring my chemotherapy home and administer it to myself.”
Ins. Rep – “Sometimes it’s the code the hospital uses that kicks this out. Call the hospital and see if they can resubmit the bill using a different code. If this is how they bill, then simply write a letter of appeal explaining this is how they code it. It should be covered then.” 

I hung up, feeling confident these charges were nothing more than a clerical error by a claims processor not paying attention to what they were doing. My next call was to the hospital billing department. I repeated the conversation I had with the insurance company to the hospital’s representative. She listened and assured me that she would send it “upstairs” for review and maybe they could change the coding to make insurance happy. I assured her, if necessary, I would gladly write a letter of appeal.

At the next chemotherapy appointment, I made a point to find Miss Insurance Specialist and ask her opinion of these charges. As I handed her the insurance EOBs we had this conversation:

Me – “The insurance says these are clinic fees and I’m responsible to pay them in addition to the deductible and co-pay. The only clinic I can think of is the infusion clinic. Do you have any idea why insurance would think this is my responsibility?”
MIS (after a quick glance) – I don’t know. I read your policy. You don’t owe a penny more than the deductible and co-pay. I would keep track of everything I paid and when that maximum is reached, don’t pay anything else. 

On a weekly basis, I would call the hospital billing department, talking to different people, asking them if they had figured out another code to bill my insurance company for these charges. I knew I had a small window to file an appeal and I didn’t want to miss it. After a month, I had a conversation with the hospital’s billing department representative where she stated:

“This is how we bill. I don’t know why your insurance company doesn’t want to pay this. It is a clinic fee and we are billing under the hospital name. They are standard fees. We bill under this coding all the time and every other insurance company pays with no problems. When you send the letter of appeal, send us a copy and we’ll put the contested amount back in the insurance bucket.”

I immediately mailed my letter of appeal – via registered mail, return receipt requested, just so the insurance company knew I meant business. I received a letter back stating it would take them 60 days to review the matter. During this entire time I continued to receive chemotherapy and book oncologist appointments, absolutely certain that insurance would see the error of their ways and rectify the situation. EOBs continued to come in showing those pesky $185 charges they said I was responsible for.

As chemotherapy ended, I was in a conversation with the hospital billing department trying to settle up what I knew I legitimately owed. Their rep was badgering me to also pay those “clinic fees” that were under appeal. I explained that I had already made arrangements to wait on those until my insurance appeal came back. She wouldn’t budge on the issue, so I asked to speak to her supervisor. It was then that I received information no one else in the system had cared to share with me for five months.

Me - “I don’t understand why my insurance is not paying these fees. The policy states that clinic fees are covered. I just know in my heart that when the appeal comes back, they will find in my favor.”
Supervisor - “Part of the problem may be in the method of how the hospital bills insurance. The clinic fee is the hospital’s fee for your visit to the doctor and it is a separate billing from the doctor’s fee. If you were going to a doctor across the street from us, you would not have this problem because they bill insurance with a single charge.”
Me - “I’ve seen Dr. General Surgeon and Dr. Plastic Surgeon. They are both hospital doctors in the same building as my oncologist and you bill on their behalf,  just like my oncologist. Why am I not billed clinic fees for them?” 
Supervisor - “You are right, they are all hospital doctors. However Dr. Plastic Surgeon has his own office in another part of town, so we can’t bill clinic fees for him. I’m not sure why there’s not a clinic fee charged for Dr. General Surgeon.”
Me - “I love my oncologist, but for me to quit incurring these fees, are you saying I need to find another doctor across the street?”
Supervisor - “Don’t worry. I think something can be done if the appeal doesn’t work out. You work with us, we’ll work with you.” 

This was the first time anyone explained the multiple $185 fees I was incurring were hospital charges for seeing the doctor and had nothing to do with chemotherapy. I couldn’t wrap my brain around the idea that the hospital could charge a fee over and above the doctor’s charge. Many years ago, my sister worked in the insurance industry. I shot her an email recapping the conversation. My sister has many talents, but one of the most extraordinary is her ability to research. She responded with a note saying “I think this is what you are being charged” and included links to two articles explaining facility fees. I don’t know how she did it, but she managed to make the connection that the term “clinic fees” equals “facility fees.”

After reading the articles, I looked at my insurance policy and there is clearly an exclusion for facility fees. To say I was angry is an understatement. I feel like the five year old who has been playing Monopoly with 12 year olds. Everyone knew the rules and I was asking questions, but no one wanted to share their knowledge. They even changed the language on me.

Two weeks after the hospital billing supervisor assured me their department would be happy to work with me, I received a call asking for payment of these fees – so much for “working with me.” Armed with new knowledge, I explained that THEIR employee – an INSURANCE SPECIALIST had assured me I didn’t owe these fees. The reply was that the hospital could not be held responsible for such statements. I was told that I received the services so I needed to pay the bill. It wasn’t my proudest moment, but I used the line “I need to call my attorney.” The rep ended the call telling me how many days I had until the matter went to collections.

I’m still waiting on the appeal from the insurance company; the sixty day period for review will expire in a few days. Based on my policy exclusion, I’m not holding out any hope that the insurance company will accept my appeal. I’ve changed oncologists. My new oncologist, who I also think is fabulous, said that their office has acquired several patients fleeing the facility fees.

I’ve reflected on the entire matter and tried to figure out how I could have prevented incurring fees I didn’t even know existed. I’d like to try to fight these fees but it’s difficult to figure out who is actually at fault. It ultimately would have been nice if the fees had been explained up front. The insurance specialist should have known how the hospital billed, caught the policy exclusion and put two and two together. I know I’m not the first to have these billing issues, so I feel someone in hospital billing could have set me straight during one of those phone calls. And I think the insurance company could have been more helpful with their explanation of non-payment.

Being older and wiser, I called a few days ago to inquire if the hospital charged facility fees for the radiation oncologist I was being referred to. It took three phone calls (at first I received two “I don’t knows”) to find out that, yes, facility fees would be charged. I told my new oncologist that I would stick my chest in a microwave and give myself radiation treatments before I incurred another facility fee – surely there is an instructional YouTube video for radiation do-it yourselfers.

I can only hope that my story saves you from incurring these charges. If it does, that will make me glad and make today a good day!

Note:
Click >>> here<<<  for my informative post on facility fees and how to avoid them. 
Click >>> here <<< for a Wall Street Journal article (found by my awesome sister)
Click >>> here <<< for a  Washington Post article (found by my awesome sister)
If anyone has any ideas how they would fight this, or even if you think I owe these fees, I welcome your feedback. This is a public blog – if you think there is anyone that would benefit from this information, I encourage you to forward this to them. I sincerely believe knowledge is power. And finally, this is an unusually lengthy article. If you have stayed through to the end  - thank you!

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Facility Fees – Protect Yourself

I’m giving you fair warning – you are probably going to find this a boring post, but you need to read and take it to heart so you can protect yourself. I’ve been stung and I feel obligated to share the knowledge I’ve learned through the school of hard knocks.

There is a new source of medical billing that is rearing its ugly head all over the country and blindsiding patients. The term is called “Facility Fee.” Patients are being surprised by hospital fees they did not know they were incurring. I have found the subject matter tough to understand, so I’m going to try to break it down for you in an understandable form.

What is a Facililty Fee?
Increasingly, hospitals are hiring doctors and purchasing urgent care clinics. The hospital can then charge a “facility fee” in addition to the doctor’s or urgent care clinic’s fees. For example, if you see a hospital doctor for a sore throat, you expect to pay his bill, just like you would a non-hospital doctor. However, hospitals can also charge a separate fee. If you cut your finger and go to the urgent care clinic, thinking you are saving on emergency room fees, don’t be so sure. If the hospital owns that clinic, they may bill a separate emergency room fee on top of the urgent care clinic fee. It’s the same thing as if you made a purchase at the Clinique counter in Macy’s and a month later get a separate bill from Macy’s just for setting foot into their store.

Why is this happening?
A Medicare regulation allows separate billings of hospital fees and normal patient care fees. The rule is that the hospital also has to bill everyone else the same. Doctors are finding working directly for hospitals very appealing. They can draw a paycheck and do what they went to school for without the worries of running a challenging business.

Won’t my provider tell me up front about facility fees?
Many won’t. They know if the charges are disclosed,  you’ll probably go to another provider – which is not beneficial to their bottom line. Some providers offer slight clues, if you know what to look for. There may be a form to sign with the language “other fees” embedded in it. There also may be a small sign by the reception desk that states “additional hospital fees may be incurred.” If you don’t know the situation, that language can be misinterpreted by you to mean something else. Washington State passed a law this month requiring full disclosure of these fees to patients. In my research, I haven’t found another state that’s even thinking of going this route.

I have good health insurance, doesn’t it cover Facility Fees?
Not necessarily. From personal experience, I stayed “in network,” used the “preferred provider” hospital and doctors and still managed to get stung.  Different insurance policies are dealing with these fees in different ways. Some policies will pay the fees or they have an agreement with the hospital that it is not an allowable expense. My policy excludes these fees as a benefit (translation, I’m 100% responsible for all facility fees).

If I stay off the hospital campus, am I safe from these fees?
No! Geographic location has nothing to do with these charges. There are doctors who own their practices and rent space in a hospital building (no facility fees). Then there are hospital doctors who are off campus, miles from the hospital campus whose patients incur hospital fees. The ability for the hospital to bill these fees lies in the ownership and business relationship papers that are locked in a file folder in the bowels of some hospital administrator’s desk drawer.

So how do I protect myself?
Before visiting a new doctor or clinic ask about their billing policies and fees. Be aware that while the industry name for these charges are “facility fees,” the hospital/billing clerk may use a more euphemistic term of “clinic fees.” Before I set foot in a doctor’s office I ask the question three different ways.

  • Are there facility fees incurred during a visit to this physician?
  • Are there any clinic fees assessed with this visit? 
  • Does the hospital bill a separate fee over and above the doctor’s fee?

If I get a “no” to all three questions, I write down the date, the name of the person I talked to and what was said. I just went through this process on Friday. It took me twenty minutes, three phone calls and getting my “bitch on” to find out that the radiation oncologist I was getting referred to has facility fees.

Be aware that the doctor and office staff are sometimes not aware of how you are billed, which is why persistence and asking the same question different ways is important. There can also be confusion when asking about hospital fees. You may get an answer referring to the hospital imposing their fees for tests (like x-rays or MRI’s). Those fees having nothing to do with facility fees.

I’m recommending that you keep copies of all the documents (privacy notices, financial responsibilities, etc.) you sign with your health care provider. The sweet receptionist will tell you that you can have those documents on demand, but it can be tricky when an issue arises. Finally, find out how your insurance policy deals with facility fees.

Note: You probably recognize that this is not a normal post for me. I generally like to keep a happy, sunshine narrative going in my blog posts. It is my policy to stay away from politics and anything that might be controversial. However, since the first bill for chemotherapy has arrived, I have gone through unmitigated hell trying to sort through these unfamiliar fees. After much deliberation, I decided that I had no choice but to pass on what I have learned to you. I don’t want political discussions in the comments about how our health care system is broken, bastard insurance companies, greedy hospitals, etc. If you want to say it, I’ll be happy to listen, but let’s keep it in emails or feel free to give me a call. The purpose of this post is for you to be aware that these fees exist and it’s way too easy to get stung. A disclaimer – this is not, by any means, legal advice, I’m just passing on information to my friends.

In my next post, I plan to tell my personal insurance/facility fee story. It took me months to unravel what was going on. I also want to state that my actual care from the health care professionals has been amazing. The weather today is spectacular. Today is a good day!

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I’m Here to Pump You Up

On the way home from a doctor’s visit this afternoon, DH stopped at the gas station to fill up our tank. While he was busy with his task, I noticed two fairly mature women at the pump in front of us having a frightful time trying to get gas. They were both reading the gas pump instructions and from their body language, I could tell they were quite frustrated. I couldn’t stand it, I got out of the car and walked over to ask if I could help.

It turns out they had managed to find their way across the Columbia River into Washington State from Oregon. State laws in Oregon and New Jersey make it illegal to pump one’s own gasoline. These women had NEVER pumped their own gas. They were anxious to learn how and I dutifully guided them through the process. It turns out they couldn’t get the pump to work because they didn’t know to push the button that chooses the low/high/medium octane option. They were concerned that the gas would start flowing out of the car’s tank when it was full and I explained how the pump handle had a sensor to kick it off.

They were gracious and thankful that I helped them, but they found the experience so frustrating that they vowed they would only purchase future gas in Oregon. I remember the first time I pumped my gas at a self-service station (over 36 years ago) – who knew it would become such a valuable skill set?

Today is a good day!

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Draino

My parting gifts for participating in the surgery two weeks ago were three drains – one for each breast and one for the lymph nodes. About 18″ of plastic tubing comes out the skin on both sides and fluid drains into a plastic bulb on the ends. I was turned into a human Easter egg tree!

It was explained that the body sends tons of fluids to the surgical site and the drains are a way to help the site heal more quickly. The drains have needed to be emptied and contents measured and logged twice a day. DH (Dear Husband) has been amazing at this task. On Monday, the doctor determined that I had healed enough so that two of the drains were ready to be removed.

When the nurse came in to remove them, she told me that she wasn’t going to lie, patients said the drain tubes hurt coming out, like a burn. I was surprised to hear that because I would have thought being surrounded with all the mushy innards, they would have been well greased and slid out easily. It turns out she was right, there was momentary, but very intense stinging when the tubes came out. She mentioned that I would also get another set of drains during reconstruction surgery. I was thinking when that surgery happens, I’ll take the good doctor a can of WD-40 and/or a jar of petroleum jelly to oil up those tubes so they won’t sting so much coming out.

We are hopeful that my last drain comes out tomorrow. I’m considering telling them just to cut the tube really close to the skin, and hope that I don’t make a whistle when I walk around in a wind storm.

Today is a good day!

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Waste Not

Before going into surgery, my plastic surgeon made marks on my chest with a common Sharpie marker to indicate where he wanted the general surgeon to make her cuts. I was totally aghast when I saw him cap the marker and start to toss it away. Upon hearing my squeal and seeing my eyes bugged out, he handed the marker to me. I told him I would keep this marker safe and bring it back for the next surgery. I actually thought it was a great plan. Who knows what the medical charge is for that $2 Sharpie. I couldn’t see the harm in a little bit of recycling for the next surgery. It was the plastic surgeon’s turn to get a look of horror on his face as he told me that he would rather use a new one the next time.

My general surgeon then arrived and I asked her if I could have the port that she was removing from my chest. She made one of those faces like a mom makes to her two year old when they are about to play in dog poop and replied “That has all of your yucky body fluids all over it.” Even with my promise that I would put it in the dishwasher on the pot scrubber cycle, she refused to let me keep it. I suppose it’s all for the best, though, because if I were to need a port implanted again in the future, I’m sure the surgeon wouldn’t want to recycle the old one.

Today is a good day!

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Continued Healing

After two nights in the hospital, I was released in DH and Janet’s care to rest and heal at home. I feel truly blessed to have such wonderful caregivers. It has to be exhausting to administer meds on time, bathe and dress me and see that I’m getting enough fluids. They have done all those jobs and more without the hint of any complaint.

I’m so pleased with my recovery process. The diet of heavy pain meds seem to be behind me. I cannot thank you enough for all the support, prayers and love you have shown to me and my family.

Today is a good day!

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Merely a Flesh Wound

Janet here updating for Mom.. she had her surgery today and everything went well. When you are at the hospital you get used to being asked a lot of the same questions over and over again about allergies, what’s your name, etc – just so they can make sure that they have the right person and they don’t give you the wrong treatment or something like that.

One of the stranger questions they ask is, “Are you in a safe place?” I suppose the reasoning is that they want to make sure you aren’t going home to an abuser or bad conditions. Usually it’s awkward to answer it, but today Mom was hoping they would ask her in the Operating Room, because when they did she was going to reply, “No! I’m in a room full of knives you’re going to slice me up with!” Maybe it’s better they didn’t end up asking.

Surgery was about 5 hours and when I finally got to see her she greeted me with, “It’s merely a flesh wound!” – a quote from one of the funniest Monty Python bits. I’m glad to see they didn’t take her sense of humor.

I am staying with her tonight and she’ll be going home either late tomorrow or the next day. We are so touched by all the support and love from family and friends.. we truly believe positive vibes and prayers can be felt and this has meant so much to our family.

Today is a good day!

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Tuffet Inventory

With surgery being on Thursday, the final countdown has begun. I have been given detailed “to-do” notes in a specific timeline. Under the “One Week Before Surgery” title, one of the items I am tasked with is to find “my comfort zone.” This means I need to locate the most comfortable place to recline and recover once I am home.

Really? Do they think I live in a Biltmore House with 250 rooms? I don’t need a week, I’m sure I can figure out all of the possible landing spots in my head in two minutes:

  • Dining room chairs (nope)
  • Bar stools (nope)
  • Exercise bike (refuse to sit there when feeling good, definitely not going to happen now)
  • Patio chair (weather is still wet and a little chilly – not a smart place)
  • Sofa (maybe)
  • Recliner (probably)
  • Bed (most definitely)

Today is a good day!

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